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UPDATED: 14:54, November 22, 2005
"Walking in a Jungle, You Become Familiar with the Animals": Interview (VI)
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Photo:File photo shows Lyndon H. LaRouche, Jr. is making a speech in October, 2005, in Washington, US.
File photo shows Lyndon H. LaRouche, Jr. is making a speech in October, 2005, in Washington, US.
Lyndon H. LaRouche, Jr. is an American political activist and founder of various political organizations in the United States and elsewhere. He is perhaps best known for being a "perennial candidate" for U.S. Presidency, having set a minor record for most consecutive attempts at the office by running eight times; Harold Stassen ran for President nine times, but not consecutively. LaRouche has run for the Democratic nomination for President in every election year since 1980, including in 1992 while he was in prison. Yet he and his "LaRouche movement" have gained only limited electoral support, although he has received some support in Democratic presidential primaries.

Although he has no formal qualifications, LaRouche has written extensively on economic, scientific, political, and cultural topics. Critics consider him to be a conspiracy theorist and political attention-seeker. He is frequently described as an extremist, cult leader, a communist, a fascist, and an anti-Semite, all of which he denies. LaRouche is regarded by his followers as a brilliant individual who for political reasons has been unfairly persecuted.

In 1988 LaRouche was sentenced to fifteen years imprisonment for conspiracy, mail fraud, and tax code violations. He continued his political activities from behind bars. He was released in 1994 on parole after having served five years.

LaRouche lists his formal position as a director and contributing editor of the Executive Intelligence Review News Service, a core part of the LaRouche movement.

Recently Yong Tang, People's Daily Online Washington-based staff writer, has conducted an exclusive interview with LaRouche at his home in Virginia.


Yong Tang: Despite your influence in America, it seems that no American mainstream media has interviewed you or published any story about you?

LaRouche: Well, this became clearer afterward. While I was in prison, during the Clinton Administration, there were discussions about the case. At that point, it was actually clear again that the continuing operation then, as now, still comes from that secret element of government, this Internal Security Apparatus. So that is the problem with the press. Anytime the press gets too friendly to me, this element of government goes to work. It still is operating today.

Yong Tang: So how do you deal with this kind of media blackout?

LaRouche: I don't. I don't have a problem with it. I do what I'm supposed to do.

Yong Tang: How can you make your voice heard?

LaRouche: Oh, they are limited in how much they can do. The mass media is controlled by my enemies, by a few of my enemies. NBC, for instance. These are part of the political system. These are political enemies. You have an apparatus which is called the anti-communist apparatus in the United States in the post-war period, which was centered around a group called the Congress for Cultural Freedom, which was a so-called official anti-communist propaganda group, run by a bunch of Social Democrats during the post-war period. It did all the brainwashing. Now, if you investigate this sort of thing and see what it is, you would find out exactly what the apparatus is.

This involves people like Mellon-Scaife, the Mellon family. It involves people with known intelligence pedigrees like John Train, an obscure banker, but he was a key part of it. It involved a lot of people who are now dead. But this apparatus, which is very political and is actually part of the secret government of the United States. We have a secret government. We have a real government and we also have a secret government. We have several kinds of secret governments. And this is one of them.

Yong Tang: What do you mean by secret government?

LaRouche: Well, it denies its existence as government, but it is government.

Yong Tang: Who is a member of it?

LaRouche: Well, it is a whole section of, for example, the intelligence services. It's generally run through the financial community, it's run through the banking community. That's where the base of it is located. The key control is always generally financier interests. This is the way it is set up. It's the British model. It's like the British East India Company. The British East India Company was a Venetian-style system of private banks, private financier interests, which functioned like a slime-mould. There's a lot of these things that work together. They would cut each other's throat.

It's like a gambling syndicate. Gamblers will kill each other, but they're all for the gambling syndicate. They'll defend the gambling business even though they'll kill each other, their rivals. That's what these guys are like. And they're international. They're very old. It's the Anglo-Dutch liberal establishment crowd. The bankers. These bankers have always been my enemy. They're the enemies of the human race, in fact. And they have always maintained capabilities in government through their financial interest. They're a syndicate. And they're tied to certain, generally financier, interests. That doesn't mean that all financiers are involved, but there's a special group, or there are special groups which are very close together. And they have maintained historically.

Take for example, in the United States, if you want to trace this in the United States, it goes back to 1763. In February 1763 there was a treaty, the Treaty of Paris, which establishes the British East India Company as a virtual empire under a treaty agreement.

At that point, these fellows began to repress the people in the United States or in North America. So we had a revolt against this by people including Benjamin Franklin in the United States.

This group which was allied to the British, which is the same thing as the opium traders, the American section of the international opium traders, they were the same thing. This group has maintained a continuity in finance. For example, Aaron Burr, the traitor to the United States, was a member of this group, controlled personally by Jeremy Bentham of the British Foreign Office, an official there. So from that time to the present you would have international financier groups which are tied to each other historically, which establish institutional positions in U.S. Government as in other governments. You have them in Europe, the same kind of thing.

So this becomes a secret government which has many branches. The secret government is divided into factions, as all financial groups tend to be. They work together, they're part of the same thing, but they also cut each other's throats. They compete. So this is where it comes from. Always this kind of thing. People talk about democracy, but it's the biggest joke in the world.

Yong Tang: No democracy here in the United States?

LaRouche: No, the secret government runs things. Sometimes, as in the case of Franklin Roosevelt, or in the case of Abraham Lincoln, sometimes we have broken that, reestablished the actual authority of government. But most of the time our governments are fairly weak and corrupt. And the weakness and corruption enables the secret government elements to move into the vacuum. You had the same thing in the Soviet system. To understand the Soviet system, you had to know about the secret government elements in the Soviet system, not just what you thought you saw. And it exists to this day. You see, the Andropov thing...

Yong Tang: Do you still have contact with those secret elements?

LaRouche: Oh, sure. Lots of them. Oh, they all know me and I know them. I don't know all about them, but I know them, as a group. You're dealing with them all the time. For example, the American Enterprise Institute is a mouthpiece of it.

Yong Tang: The American Enterprise Institute? It is a conservative think tank.

LaRouche: (laughing) Conservative? Fascist.

Yong Tang: What about the Hoover Institution?

LaRouche: It's an arm of the secret government institutions. Yes, it is. Hoover is in California. But there are sometimes different factions. You have the neoconservative faction. It's different from the others so you have to know the players and what the teams are. You know, just living in the United States and politics as I do, you become familiar with the elements of what you know are a secret government. They are a secret government. They have governmental powers.

Look at the way it works. Look at the law firms, for example, the financial institutions. Law firms, accounting firms, the big ones. Now these fellows will work in the private sector and in government. You got someone who goes into the Justice Department or the Treasury Department. They work there for awhile, they come out of government and then work in a law firm or accounting firm to make money. Then they go back into government at a higher level than they had been previously. Then they come out again and go into a law firm or a financial firm, or something like that, or a foundation. And then they go back into government at a still higher position.

So what you have is this. Since you don't make much money as a government official, but if you go into a law firm or a financial firm, you become an executive, and you make a lot of money. So you get money. Then you go back into government, and you become more influential than before. Then you come back out again and make more money. And then go back into government. And so it's these law firms and financial kinds of things which are the basis for the secret government. You have professors at universities that are part of this kind of thing. All of this kind of thing.

So the secret government, when you're working in the environment, is like walking in a jungle. You become familiar with the animals. And then after a while, you get to a point in life, as I have, where you have enough experience that you know a lot about them. You know who your enemies are. You know how they're connected. You know what their backgrounds are. We do investigations all the time around this kind of stuff.

By Yong Tang, People's Daily Online Washington-based Staff Writer


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